Description: This is an RPM for everyone who wants the latest Keramik snapshot. I hacked it using the CVS sources, and for me, the crucial feature is that you can change the colour scheme of the lovely window borders, which you couldn't on the widely distributed older snapshot from June. It was built on RH 7.3 against the latest KDE 3.0.3 addons, and installs in /usr/lib/kde3. If you get a dependency error about kwin, just ignore it, ie use --nodeps :-)
Hi there,
I'm new here and in wanted to install this rpm on my rh9 (ibm r32) laptop, but it's not working at all:
error: Failed dependencies:
libcrypto.so.2 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libDCOP-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libGLcore.so.1 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libkdecore-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libkdefx-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libkdeui-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
libssl.so.2 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3
I would be happy if someone could tell me where to get these things mentioned above. btw. i'm using kde 3.1-12. thanks alot!
In "KDE2 Default"
Look and Feel/Window Decoration/Configure
options there used to be
an option to disable grab bar below
windows. I can't find the option
in the Keramik theme.
Otherwise, great theme!
I really love this style, but I don't like the 100% transparent kicker. I've looked everywhere, and I can't figure out how to change this.
Is there a way to disable the transparency? or make it semi-transparent?
Thx
First of all thank you for packaging
up Keramik for RH7.3. However could
you please do one of two things,
or both.
1) Rebuild the rpm on a system that does
not have the NVidia XFree drivers?
Those of us that do not have NVidia
drivers cannot install because
we do not have libGLcore.so.1
2) Provide a source RPM so that we
can build this ourselves.
Cheers,
You can actually ignore the error message, I think.
I got an error too, but everything worked with --nodeps.
But if you e-mail me:
alastair _at_ camlinux.co.uk
I'll send you the SPEC file and the source snapshot
that I used. Then you can build for any distro!
When i try to install on Redhat 7.3 with Kde 3 kernel 2.4.18-3 Kpackage returns a dependency error missing libGLcore.so.1 ive been unable to find this file anywhere can anybody help??
I do really like Keramik, but with Red Hat 7.3 and KDE 3.0.3 it screws up some how. The Decorations work fine, but I cannot choose the style :o( Worked almos fine with 3.0.1 though (Kicker screwed up).
Does anyone have any suggestions?
I hope so, because I LOVE Keramik!!!
It's a blue-ified version of the
excellent "tuxperience" wallpaper
that I downloaded from this site
a while ago. Search in the backgrounds
section and you should find it. If
not, let me know and I'll send it
to you....
i try to install keramik on kde 3.0.2 and mandrake 8.2...but it tells me i need to install a bunch of the libs from kde 2.2. any way to get around that???
For some reason, after installing this
RPM on RH 7.3, the style is working find,
but when I'm trying to enable the background
picture for the KDE pannel, it says:
"Error loading theme image file."
Any idea ?
For some reason, whenever I hit the download link for this RPM, i get this error : Plugger:No approperiate application for type audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin found!
Anyone know what the heck is going on with that? lol. thx. Is there just an ftp site I can get this RPM from?
It asks for a plugin. I figured something was up, but downloaded the plugin anyway. It actually brings up real player now that I click the link. Something must be wrong. The save as does nothing as it isn't actually pointing to the file.
And it looks very irritating. For some reason, the kicker bar is 100% transparent.
At first it went all fine, I installed the theme and even the kicker looked the way it should. But after a restart of X, it now appears 100% transparent.
Any idea what cases this? To me it looks like a bug, as when I switch to other themes, these are are too displayed transparent at first and are correct after a restart.
System: RedHat 7.3
should see the new unreleased liquid. t looks even better than Aqua :p Seriously though Liquid only slighty resembles Aqua. You probably haven't used Aqua. Besides if it resembles Aqua just change the colorscheme, you can't do that in Aqua anyway. I really think Liquid should be default, Keramik may be origina;y, but it jsut isn't ready, besides many people would love to ahve aqua on Linux.
I wish I could take a look at Liquid 0.9.6, but I doubt it will ever be released. www.mosfet.org is down and I suspect Mosfet is no longer willing to share his work :/
Jerz
The KDE developers selected it to be the default. I'ms tarting to lose faith in the judgement of KDE developers. Keramik is not mature enough or fast enough to be the default KDE theme. THe gray parts from KDE look ugly and are inexusable for a theme. IT ruins te whole atmosphere.
"But we cant do it.
Its a too big speed hit.
After all the style was planned to be default,so it must be fast on low end machines.
Not everybody has a Athlon XP:)"
WEll than everybody should get AtholonXXp's :p Now seriously how can High Performance Liquid theme thsoe ugly gray areas and be faster than the default theme for KDE 3.0.3 and Keramik isn't as fast even without theming them?
Mosfet's project deserves to ebt he default. He is one of the greatst KDE coders of all time.
Liquid has been in development for more thn a year and the project was made by a very experienced coder. here are some fo his contributions:
"Pixie image management system. Pixie is my graphics management application, which features very fast thumbnail based image browsing, tons of photo effects, and a clever component architecture which allows it either to be used as a small image viewer or a feature-packed browser/editor. You can read about it here.
Co-author of Kicker (The KDE Panel). Along with Matthias Ettrich, I was one of the original authors of the KDE panel. Matthias Ettrich committed a framework for a panel which provided a movable bar with a taskbar but no buttons. I wrote the original code for all the buttons, panel applets, application (K) menu, recent document menu, QuickBrowser, KasBar, and rewrote the clock applet to use LCD numbers. Currently maintained by Matthias Elter.
Designed of several widget styles, including the default, and the KDE theme engine. I wrote the default widget style, which controls how widgets look in KDE2/3. I also wrote the KDE theme engine and newer styles such as Liquid.
KDE Window Manager work. I designed the default style for the window manager, which controls how it looks and feels, as well as the Laptop, B2, System, ModSystem, and KStep styles.
KDE libraries and core work. I have my stuff all over the KDE libraries ;-) I wrote the plugin architecture for widget and window manager styles, KDrawUtil, KPopupMenu, KPanelMenu, and KDualColorButton, as well as contributed and maintained several classes such as KPixmapEffect.
I also did some earlier work like a KDE1 port of Siag, the "Scheme in a Grid" spreadsheet, which is no longer maintained by anyone."
Not to mention MosfetPaint. Yet Liquid with it's higher speed, more complete feel, larger flexibility and maturity it was not selected as default. Liquid 0.9.6 will most likely be out before the KDE developers get clsoe to releasing KDE 3.1. Why haven't they taken Mosfet's hard work into consideration? His theme even has it's own control center where you can further customize it. It's unreal. WHY was Keramik selected?
Because the KDE-developers would like KDE to have its own look. Not just be an Aqua ripoff, which Liquid is.
I am not saying Liquid is bad, I like it very much in fact. It is just too similar to another OS' default theme, to be the default theme of KDE.
And for being the default theme, I think the way Keramik looks is great... It just needs the improvements you're talking about.
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Hi there, I'm new here and in wanted to install this rpm on my rh9 (ibm r32) laptop, but it's not working at all: error: Failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.2 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libDCOP-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libGLcore.so.1 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libkdecore-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libkdefx-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libkdeui-gcc2.96.so.4 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 libssl.so.2 is needed by keramik-3.1b-3 I would be happy if someone could tell me where to get these things mentioned above. btw. i'm using kde 3.1-12. thanks alot!
douh...since i don't have a nvidia card is this somehow related to the posting above?
In "KDE2 Default" Look and Feel/Window Decoration/Configure options there used to be an option to disable grab bar below windows. I can't find the option in the Keramik theme. Otherwise, great theme!
I really love this style, but I don't like the 100% transparent kicker. I've looked everywhere, and I can't figure out how to change this. Is there a way to disable the transparency? or make it semi-transparent? Thx
First of all thank you for packaging up Keramik for RH7.3. However could you please do one of two things, or both. 1) Rebuild the rpm on a system that does not have the NVidia XFree drivers? Those of us that do not have NVidia drivers cannot install because we do not have libGLcore.so.1 2) Provide a source RPM so that we can build this ourselves. Cheers,
You can actually ignore the error message, I think. I got an error too, but everything worked with --nodeps. But if you e-mail me: alastair _at_ camlinux.co.uk I'll send you the SPEC file and the source snapshot that I used. Then you can build for any distro!
When i try to install on Redhat 7.3 with Kde 3 kernel 2.4.18-3 Kpackage returns a dependency error missing libGLcore.so.1 ive been unable to find this file anywhere can anybody help??
I do really like Keramik, but with Red Hat 7.3 and KDE 3.0.3 it screws up some how. The Decorations work fine, but I cannot choose the style :o( Worked almos fine with 3.0.1 though (Kicker screwed up). Does anyone have any suggestions? I hope so, because I LOVE Keramik!!!
.....for mandrake
says I need libstdc where can i get these to make it work!
Where can i find the bg image ?
It's a blue-ified version of the excellent "tuxperience" wallpaper that I downloaded from this site a while ago. Search in the backgrounds section and you should find it. If not, let me know and I'll send it to you....
I hope Youl'll keep going.... This RPM really works.
The easiest way to install the best theme for KDE
i try to install keramik on kde 3.0.2 and mandrake 8.2...but it tells me i need to install a bunch of the libs from kde 2.2. any way to get around that???
I'm getting the same deal, so I can't install keramik. If you have the answer, e-mail me!
For some reason, after installing this RPM on RH 7.3, the style is working find, but when I'm trying to enable the background picture for the KDE pannel, it says: "Error loading theme image file." Any idea ?
For some reason, whenever I hit the download link for this RPM, i get this error : Plugger:No approperiate application for type audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin found! Anyone know what the heck is going on with that? lol. thx. Is there just an ftp site I can get this RPM from?
Try Save link as using Mozilla or a download manager like Downloader for X
It asks for a plugin. I figured something was up, but downloaded the plugin anyway. It actually brings up real player now that I click the link. Something must be wrong. The save as does nothing as it isn't actually pointing to the file.
And it looks very irritating. For some reason, the kicker bar is 100% transparent. At first it went all fine, I installed the theme and even the kicker looked the way it should. But after a restart of X, it now appears 100% transparent. Any idea what cases this? To me it looks like a bug, as when I switch to other themes, these are are too displayed transparent at first and are correct after a restart. System: RedHat 7.3
should see the new unreleased liquid. t looks even better than Aqua :p Seriously though Liquid only slighty resembles Aqua. You probably haven't used Aqua. Besides if it resembles Aqua just change the colorscheme, you can't do that in Aqua anyway. I really think Liquid should be default, Keramik may be origina;y, but it jsut isn't ready, besides many people would love to ahve aqua on Linux.
I wish I could take a look at Liquid 0.9.6, but I doubt it will ever be released. www.mosfet.org is down and I suspect Mosfet is no longer willing to share his work :/ Jerz
The KDE developers selected it to be the default. I'ms tarting to lose faith in the judgement of KDE developers. Keramik is not mature enough or fast enough to be the default KDE theme. THe gray parts from KDE look ugly and are inexusable for a theme. IT ruins te whole atmosphere. "But we cant do it. Its a too big speed hit. After all the style was planned to be default,so it must be fast on low end machines. Not everybody has a Athlon XP:)" WEll than everybody should get AtholonXXp's :p Now seriously how can High Performance Liquid theme thsoe ugly gray areas and be faster than the default theme for KDE 3.0.3 and Keramik isn't as fast even without theming them? Mosfet's project deserves to ebt he default. He is one of the greatst KDE coders of all time. Liquid has been in development for more thn a year and the project was made by a very experienced coder. here are some fo his contributions: "Pixie image management system. Pixie is my graphics management application, which features very fast thumbnail based image browsing, tons of photo effects, and a clever component architecture which allows it either to be used as a small image viewer or a feature-packed browser/editor. You can read about it here. Co-author of Kicker (The KDE Panel). Along with Matthias Ettrich, I was one of the original authors of the KDE panel. Matthias Ettrich committed a framework for a panel which provided a movable bar with a taskbar but no buttons. I wrote the original code for all the buttons, panel applets, application (K) menu, recent document menu, QuickBrowser, KasBar, and rewrote the clock applet to use LCD numbers. Currently maintained by Matthias Elter. Designed of several widget styles, including the default, and the KDE theme engine. I wrote the default widget style, which controls how widgets look in KDE2/3. I also wrote the KDE theme engine and newer styles such as Liquid. KDE Window Manager work. I designed the default style for the window manager, which controls how it looks and feels, as well as the Laptop, B2, System, ModSystem, and KStep styles. KDE libraries and core work. I have my stuff all over the KDE libraries ;-) I wrote the plugin architecture for widget and window manager styles, KDrawUtil, KPopupMenu, KPanelMenu, and KDualColorButton, as well as contributed and maintained several classes such as KPixmapEffect. I also did some earlier work like a KDE1 port of Siag, the "Scheme in a Grid" spreadsheet, which is no longer maintained by anyone." Not to mention MosfetPaint. Yet Liquid with it's higher speed, more complete feel, larger flexibility and maturity it was not selected as default. Liquid 0.9.6 will most likely be out before the KDE developers get clsoe to releasing KDE 3.1. Why haven't they taken Mosfet's hard work into consideration? His theme even has it's own control center where you can further customize it. It's unreal. WHY was Keramik selected?
Because the KDE-developers would like KDE to have its own look. Not just be an Aqua ripoff, which Liquid is. I am not saying Liquid is bad, I like it very much in fact. It is just too similar to another OS' default theme, to be the default theme of KDE. And for being the default theme, I think the way Keramik looks is great... It just needs the improvements you're talking about.